SSBB Tournament Turnout

I think the event was mentioned in facebook a week before but I checked that anyway. The only reason I paid 5 dollars was because I really wanted to play Brawl with you guys. If it were any other game I would have refused. I could get popcorn chicken with that money. ...or a chocolate milkshake. Uh anyway, yeah that was a little more than what I would have liked. 2-3 dollars is cool with me. Though I lean more on 2.

Even with that I still liked how it turned out. Since there weren't a lot of people it didn't take a long time. I was free to do other things instead of rushing home right after.

Yea I had a feeling the fee was a problem. When I saw that I was like "Uhhh..." but it wasn't up to me. The Mario Kart Wii fee will be adjusted to ensure maximum players.

And yea see that confusion about when I could post the tourney indicator caused an issue. So I WILL make sure that happens, for sure. And hopefully the aforementioned organization restructuring will satisfy Poll Answer #1. I also think there should be a newsletter, definitely, via e-mail. Even if people can't be relied on to check it ever.

I hope the more hardcore/accessible rules thing comes out in either favor. If it stays even, I'm leaving the rules as I find them. But instead I might just have more player input for them.

*(And it was 2 weeks announced before the tourney on FB, but 1 day on Club meeting.)

Yea Lance I can't really speak for everyone, but I'm getting the vibe that people want the participation in a tournament and tournament environment OVER the idea of a prize. The prize isn't why they play, most people play these games for fun. Now when it gets to fighting game time, yes I'll raise the fee and subsequently the prize. Like for SFIV and BB, because more people play that seriously, rather than for fun like Mario Kart Wii (which is the next game) and SSBB.

ill give my 2 cents.

Location is a factor, even thou its not super far from school it isnt close and not everyone wants to walk/take a bus there and bus/walk back at night or late afternoon since most of the time parents pick them up. So prob having it on campus would work a bit better.

Price is a big factor especially if its open club members won't want to spend money on a toruny that someone outside the club could win, so id say for the most part make it only club and friends to keep members more interested because not everyone is good, so maybe making an expert class and a beginners class would attract more.

Final have all the rules ready ahead of time, everyone can see online about banned and cheaper characters (R.O.B, Dedede and Meta Knight) and decide nm I wont have a chance

its not that he is banned (meta knight is usually the only banned char) its certain moves, grabs are banned or limited due to his gyros can provide a possible Edge Guard

location yes is a problem, unless you can work out something with an advisor i would say get the art room i showed you before lance, and hold it there during free time.

So it seems like people need a lot more information than they are getting.

which is why you guys should ask
chris and i have ran this type of things before, more so for him than for me, and we can come up with some fair ruling as far as how the game will be set up
i'm surprised none of you people in charge bothered to ask for opinions before doing anything

I did ask. I asked several times. I'm sorry if you did not take those opportunities, or if you feel as though they were not presented to you, but I have been nothing if not open to suggestions and repeatedly ask for suggestions. You always seem to have commentary after the fact instead of before it. I would appreciate either of your guys' help, but I've done this stuff before too and as such am also aware of how to deal with things on an organizational level, as I addressed in the first post. You have to understand that it's my job to set the groundwork then collect suggestions rather than run around asking people what to do. If you are unhappy with a decision I make just say so, I'm sure someone such as yourself or Chris should have no problem just saying "hey Todd you might want to consider this Rule change because of these reasons." If you do, and it makes sense and fits the purpose if the tournament, I'll make the change. I have done tournaments before on a scale larger than that of our club, with players less experienced, and thus tend to gravitate towards accessible tournaments more centralized around fun than competitive play. If the players here want something more rigid, that can easily be arranged if you just let me know. So please do not try to assert that none of us ask for opinions because I do it all the time. Just as fairly, however, I cannot ask every question, so take it upon yourself to do your knowledge justice and just tell me what you think is best.

So again: if you guys have any suggestions, please give them to me. With this new structure I can assure that they are implemented assuming it makes sense.

like my teacher always says
if you don't ask for help, we all just assume you got it
until eventually it shows that you have no idea what's going on
in which case it will be too late

in your own words

"but I've done this stuff before too and as such am also aware of how to
deal with things on an organizational level, as I addressed in the first
post."

" I have done tournaments before on a scale larger than that of our club,
with players less experienced, and thus tend to gravitate towards
accessible tournaments more centralized around fun than competitive
play."

with words like that means you should have it down, so we let you do it as you please and when things pass it was what you did.

The problem is you rely to heavily on how everyone else runs tournaments, which is a nice thing to fall on but its not how it shoudl always be done, like you said when you ppl had less skill but then you forget by opening it up to ppl not i nthe club at Play N Trade there will be higher level people.

I wouldn't really suggest using hardcore rules too much because most players in the club ARE casual players and in the end these tournaments are meant to be CLUB EVENTS for our CLUB MEMBERS.